It's been years telling myself I don't need to spend money on a packer, but I finally bit the bullet and did it. I'm so grateful I did because this is the most euphoric feeling and it's pretty realistic for the price. When you reach and feel what should be there, it's amazing. It fits well to mould to your body and as long as they are snug boxer briefs, you don't need to get a harness if you dont want. I got used to the feel of it down there. I need to practice peeing with it more as you can't just go full power stream of course lol. But anyway it's worth it at least for the euphoric and realistic feeling of it in your underwear/pants